When will our elected officials and their constituents agree? Most people react emotionally rather than intellectually on issues. In today's mass communication, there are many "spins" placed on issues. To me an issue is as simple as a word problem. Break it down to its various components and work the problem. Issues are slanted either way by the parties (not Republican , Democrat or Independant folks) wanting to push their point of view. It is up to us as the public, to intelligently make the "correct" decision. In stating "correct", I say for the greater good. To many work only one side ... theirs. There must be balance to everything.
Now to start a new battle royale. Iraq. In looking at the problem as a whole, what is diseminated is that this is a worldwide issue. I have had many "disopinions" on this statement. We are not at war in Iraq. We are at war across the globe. The radical Muslim movement is not solely against the U.S., the are against our society. Proof? Everywhere their is trouble in the world, the radical Muslim movement is the "opposing" side. It is not Iraq, nor is it Afghanistan. It is Spain, France, Enlgland, the African continent, Malaysia, Jakarta, everywhere their is a cell. Trust me cells are everywhere, most importantly and of some concern is here in the United States.
There are those that wish to turn a blind eye to this, pacifism and igorance have caused us great loss in the past. Address the issue now. A splinter pulled immediately will cause discomfort temporarily, left to become infected takes longer to recover. If left unattended ....
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 244 of 244Quint, do you embrace the same antisemetic conspiratorial line as We Saw That. One of their declarations is that Dwight Eisenhower, a well known Quaker, was Jewish. You buy into that stuff. I would really like to know.
Conspiracy theorists generally fall into two camps: self-serving opportunists with a book or video to sell, and those who are simply trying to make sense out of a world they have no control over. Both are looking for patterns in historical and current events. Both have a tendency to oversimplify by fitting people, ideologies and events into comfortable pigeon holes with simplistic labels such as Illuminati, New World Order, or Zionist Occupational Government. The freemasons are often included in this shadowy group.
There are real conspiracies. Many of them are related. Many of them have been exposed by investigative journalists and corporate or government whistle-blowers. Their existence is no theory, but a very frightening reality. These books detail—with citations, references and facts—real conspiracies. It is unfortunate that the hucksters and paranoid cranks have so debased the term conspiracy that the real conspiracies, the real danger to a free and open society, so often go unreported or unremarked.
NO ... I, Quint Carriere a/k/a Cenla Antics, am not tracking IP addresses. I personally have better things to do and do not have the time for it.
I love to read and have done so from a very early age (when bored I actually read the encyclopdia and every word on the cereal box, which did not make my mother very happy by the way). It is unfortunate that I do not have the time to read these days. I am reading the following books (all at the same time and for the past three years :))
Rising Tide
Jefferson's Great Gamble
Morgan, American Financier
and
Patriarch; George Washington and the New American Nation
I have read in the past books on the religious comparisons between the Quran and the Holy Bible and a most interesting book on the socio economic history of coffee.
But, where is your head on We Saw That's zionist conspiriacy, to which he attributes virtually every unpleasant event including the 911 World Trade Center attack? Maybe your mother was right to register concern. You became a republican, after all.
we dont know what you're on about with our so called "declaration" about president eisenhower. out of nearly 800 posts we've never posted about him. additionally a search this blog for "dwight eisenhower" shows that his name isnt even mentioned within the text of any post.
so if you say the wrong thing about a public servant unemployment is to be expected?
I have yet to see or hear any proof that Mayor Roy or Lamar had anything to do with the DJ's firing. The City employee denies the allegations made, about telling the employer.
As often happens, there appears to be a rush to judgment without evidence.
I held my nose and went to one of the links to one of the We Saw That red shirted white double-knit tie preacher for-profit-prophets and he disclosed, among other rabid obsurdities, that Dwight D. was Jewish. Most intelligent and informed people can laugh at your illness (heh heh heh) but you could inspire someone with like-minded weakness to do real harm.
I held my nose and went to one of the links to one of the We Saw That red shirted white double-knit tie preacher for-profit-prophets and he disclosed, among other rabid obsurdities, that Dwight D. was Jewish. Most intelligent and informed people can laugh at your illness (heh heh heh) but you could inspire someone with like-minded weakness to do real harm.
Were you forced to read his writings?
These are not writings - this is some ravathon by We's web guru. And yes, we need to know that these people are out there and infusing their hatred and ignorance on the unwary.
And yes, we need to know that these people are out there and infusing their hatred and ignorance on the unwary.
Well then, why don't we outlaw all blogs and news media, and just read what you have to say? You are right and all other's with views you do not agree with, are wrong right? Rather than attempts to be witty with vague generalities and insults, why not try to argue We Saw's points with proof to the contrary. That would be more informative to me.
When one is so irrational and malicious that he tries to "out" Eisenhower for being Jewish, there is really no rational debate to engage in. If I make declarations that fly in the face of historic fact and common knowledge and attribute that historical knowledge to some nefarious plot and conspiratorial effort to misguide us, involving colleges and universities and historical participants and observers, what exactly is there to say.
No one has proposed silencing these creeps or limiting their speech but it is irresponsible to play like they don't exist or that the hatred and fear they promote is harmless. And I think there are differences: Quint has a point of view or philosophy whereas We Saw That just has a side.
is harmless. And I think there are differences: Quint has a point of view or philosophy whereas We Saw That just has a side.
I believe that many treat We Saw That unfairly. He clearly does have a view or a philosophy, although perhaps not agreed with by you, and probably many. I have seen nothing he has written advocating concentration camps for Jews, although he does apparently believe in Zionist conspiracies. He cannot be said to be anti-Semitic, because he does favorably write about Jews who do not support the nation of Israel.
The problem I have is the attacks on him because of those Jewish statements. Political correctness seems to make discussion of Black and Jewish issues taboo, pegging that person with the sins of slavery and Nazi Germany. It is possible to not support everything that Israel does, or speak out against "cold cash" Jefferson, without being pro-slavery or pro-Gestapo. Are people opposed to a new casino, pro-genocide of American Indians.
Calling We Saw That a creep, for his views, which do not suggest or advocate criminal acts, is as wrong as calling those that believe in Global Warming or UFOs creeps for their beliefs. Argue their points, point out facts that show they may be wrong, but generalizations and name calling does not evidence intelligence on your part.
name calling... you mean the same name calling the "we" does when he calls President Bush, Bobby Jindal and David Vitter criminals b/c they are Rhodes Scholars? That kind of name calling right? I personally think "we" is a quack that believes every conspiracy theory thrown out there since the assassination of JFK.
Congratulations. With your name calling, you then show that you are a quack of equal statue as We Saw.
"equal statue"
kinda pitiful.
Go to We Saw That's site and see exactly who and what he believes, promotes, touts, and pimps, and visit some of the guru links of guys he reveres and THEN draw your conclusion as to what kind of person he is. No name-calling. He is what he is. He does not deserve our respect, much less our tolerance.
by calling him a quack that makes me a quack. ok makes PERFECT sense. Lets try this. His icon shows President Bush morphing into hitler. Yet, he does not believe in the holocaust. So he doesnt think hitler is such a bad guy. Maybe this is compliment to our President.
I don't think that anyone on here thinks they can convert We to rational or fair thought. I think that the comments of late are designed to warn and inform. Remember when Deborah Randolph got sucked in to a graceful acceptantce of a compliment from We. She later recognized the source and retracted her thank you.
In closing, remember that while we can't rid the planet of dog shit, we can watch where we step.
Would you not, perhaps, do more good to We Saw That and others who may belive like him, by showing facts to disprove him rather than calling him names? You may not be able to change his positions, but you sure would look better for the attempt.
Feb. 25, 2007 — New scientific evidence, including DNA analysis conducted at one of the world's foremost molecular genetics laboratories, as well as studies by leading scholars, suggests a 2,000-year-old Jerusalem tomb could have once held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth and his family.
The findings also suggest that Jesus and Mary Magdalene might have produced a son named Judah.
The DNA findings, alongside statistical conclusions made about the artifacts — originally excavated in 1980 — open a potentially significant chapter in Biblical archaeological history.
from Time magazine.
we never denied the holocaust. we have said based on what evidence far more learned people than we have presented, that in the holocaust the jews that were exterminated were those jews who rejected zionism. this created a vacuum within world jewery and the zionists stepped in and took it over. as rabbi yisroel dovid weiss and other rabbi's and torah scholars such as satmar grand rebbe joel teitelbaum have explained -- the biblical israelites were called by god to be a holy and righteous people to show god's compassion and character to the world.
this is not whats going on in zionist israel today -- because the establishment of zionist israel was not ordained by god. zionist israel was established for sinful purposes solely by men.
true torah scholars and rabbinical leaders teach that the diaspora will only end when messiah comes and sets up israel himself. this premature establishment of zionist israel by men and without gods blessing is an affront to god and is the reason for much of the suffering we see in the world today.
zionism was only started around 1896 by a man named theodor herzl. zionism is an atheistic, nationalistic movement totally contrary to torah judaism. there are christian zionist deceivers as well, such as, john hagee, pat robertson, jerry falwell, franklin and billy graham they are liars and apostates.
as far as the traitors to the constitution and bill of rights congressman piyush "bobby" jindal and senator david vitter. anytime a member of congress votes for, or authors or sponsors legislation that is contrary to the constitution that is a criminal as well as traitorus act. this isnt some fantasy that we made up its federal law see 5 usc sec 3331.
also we never said that president bush is a rhodes scholar because hes not -- BILL CLINTON was a rhodes scholar although its reported that he didnt finish the program.
Well tell me something, We. Now that they found Jesus's body, will that cause you to rethink your "biblical" approach (heh heh heh)?
"New scientific evidence, including DNA analysis conducted at one of the world's foremost molecular genetics laboratories, as well as studies by leading scholars, suggests a 2,000-year-old Jerusalem tomb could have once held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth and his family.
The findings also suggest that Jesus and Mary Magdalene might have produced a son named Judah.
The DNA findings, alongside statistical conclusions made about the artifacts — originally excavated in 1980 — open a potentially significant chapter in Biblical archaeological history."
This is an excerpt from a story about a James Cameron MOVIE.
http://time-blog.com/middle_east/2007/02/jesus_tales_from_the_crypt.html
No, actually, it's from that well-known communist front organization known as the Discovery Channel - a documentary, not a "movie".
Check it out:
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/tomb/tomb.html?dcitc=w99-502-ah-1024
heh heh heh there is a fascinating debate unfolding in the comments section in the time blog mentioned above.
the url is http://time-blog.com/middle_east/2007/02/jesus_tales_from_the_crypt.html#comments
The only way to confirm that this is the DNA of Jesus is to match it with a known descendent of Jesus, which of course is impossible. So Cameron, like The DaVinci Code, has to create one.
Once again: much ado, about nuttin'
From what I have read, the DNA tests show nothing except those that were buried there were related. The DNA does not prove that Jesus was buried there. What I would like to see is a comparison of that DNA to that of James the Brother of Jesus buried in Rome.
Theologians also have long debated a spiritual resurrection versus a bodily resurrection. Assuming this is the body of Jesus, he could have possibly married, and even had children, as was the Jewish tradition at that time, during the years that the Bible is silent. While this is an interesting archaeological discovery, it doesn't prove or disprove the Christian faith as far as I can see.
What if the DNA proves that Jesus murdered OJ's wife???
Are you saying OJ is Jesus reincarnated?
"If you're well connected,
you gets resurrected"
J. Cocheran
I see neither humor, wisdom nor wit in making jokes about any major religion.
That you fail to grasp the humor, wit and wisdom speaks volumes about your fear based relationship with your god. My god's got a great sense of humor.
My god's got a great sense of humor.
And exactly what God is that?
Jesus would not share the same DNA with his brother James, his father Joseph, or his mother Mary. According to the Bible, Jesus is the Son of God and would therefore have a unique genetic marker that wouldn't be shared with anyone else. Mary's body was used as a surrogate so there would be no biological relationship betwwen them or any of her offspring. Now, if Jesus were to have sired a child, then they would obviously share similar DNA.
The same god that meets you at the pearly gates to say "I just wanted to see you walk up the stairs" before St. Peter bids no-entry.
Iran Launches First Space Rocket
February 25, 2007 (RFE/RL) -- State television reports that Iran has successfully launched its first space rocket. Fars news agency quotes the deputy head of Iran's aerospace research centre, Ali Akbar Golrou, as saying the rocket reached an altitude of 150 kilometres, but did not stay in orbit.
Golrou said the rocket returned to earth by parachute. It was not reported from where in Iran the rocket had been launched or where it landed.
Research Payload
The head of Iran's Space Research Center, Mohsen Bahrami, is quoted as saying the rocket was built by the country's Science and Technology Ministry and the Defense Ministry. Iran has stated that it wants to send its own satellites, including commercial ones, into orbit.
Bahrami, told state television that the rocket was carrying "material intended for research created by the ministries of science and defense." Bahrami added, "All the tests [prior to the launch] have been carried out in the country's industrial facilities in line with international regulations." Bahrami also said the rocket launch is the result of work completed in the Iranian year (note: it is currently the 12th and final month of the Iranian year).
The daily newspaper "Etemad e-Melli" on February 24 quoted Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najar as saying that "building a satellite and satellite launcher...and becoming a member of the space club are part the Defense Ministry's plans."
In Haste For Space
The state news agency IRNA today cited Science and Technology Minister Mohammad Soleimani as saying that Iran would speed up its space program. IRNA quoted Soleimani as saying, "investment in space is very serious and requires time, but we are trying to speed this up."
Iran did send an Iranian Russian-made satellite into space aboard a Russian-made rocket in October 2005. The Sina-1 satellite was Iran's first and so far only satellite put into orbit. But Iranian officials have said that the country is planning to build and launch several more satellites during the next few years.
The announcement of the rocket launch comes at a time of growing tension between Iran and the West over Tehran's nuclear program. That program was also in Iranian news today with President Mahmud Ahmadinejad quoted by the Iranian student news agency ISNA as saying his country "has obtained the technology to produce nuclear fuel and Iran's move is like a train...which has no brakes and no reverse gear." Deputy Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mohammadi was quoted by the same source as saying "We have prepared ourselves for any situation, even for war."
Copyright (c) 2007. RFE/RL, Inc. Reprinted with the permission of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, 1201 Connecticut Ave., N.W. Washington DC 20036. www.rferl.org
Mitochondrial DNA comes from the mother. Regardless of how inseminated or birth bigins, if the cells of the mother are utilized, she passes onher DNA. I am unaware of the scriptures being so specific as to how the virgin bith occured on the cellular level. Therefore, if Jesus contained DNA of Mary, that same DNA would also be present in any other offspring of Mary. The Bible does not go into detail on the mitochondrial DNA comming from Mary or not.
The same god that meets you at the pearly gates to say "I just wanted to see you walk up the stairs" before St. Peter bids no-entry.
What Holy book do you base your theology upon? Or perhaps you have received a divine vision from whichever God you worship, if any. We are indeed fortunate to have such a religious wise man in our midst, please enlighten is all knowing one.
If Mary was a virgin then Jesus would have had only Mary's DNA, he would be Mary's clone and have her two X chromosomes which would make Jesus actually Jessica. Unless you introduce god sperm which would have to come out of a god dick and be introduced to the egg in "that same old way" which, of course, is also not discussed. But then, Jessica had an older brother, James, so the virgin mama part seems somewhat unlikely.
Let's see what the documentary has to offer. It's proposition can't possibly be any more far-fetched that the current christian standard.
Where is your sense of humor?
Humor is only funny when the audience laughs, otherwise its just venom (ref. Michael Richards).
But in regards to both your misinformation on Christianity and DNA, the fact that all the people in the tomb had matching DNA unquestionably rules out this being the family of the Messiah.
Even if Jesus had older or younger siblings (whoever their father would have been) would not shared the father of the Messiah.
And the Bible does not say that Jesus was the just son of God, but he was God living among us. So his DNA would have been absolutely different from any other human. (seeing as how he would be the creator of DNA and all).
Do some research before you crack jokes and show ever how ignorant you are. From printed reports:
1) Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the idea fails to hold up by archaeological standards but makes for profitable television. "How possible is it?" "On a scale of one through 10 with 1 being completely impossible, it's probably a one, maybe a one and a half."
2) It is even unsure that the name "Jesus" on the caskets was read correctly. He thinks it's more likely the name "Hanun."
3) "The names on the caskets are the most common names found among Jews at the time." Archaeologists also balk at the filmmaker's claim that the James Ossuary, the center of a famous antiquities fraud in Israel, might have originated from the same cave. In 2005, Israel charged five suspects with forgery in connection with the infamous bone box. "If the forgers had also seen the Jesus Ossuary, don't you think they would have taken it also?"
4) Cameron is not denying the resurrection, as there were no bones in the caskets.
5) The results for the coffins labelled Jesus and Mariamne (who Cameron says is Mary Magdeline) showed the two were not related by blood, leading Cameron and his team to conclude that they were married. However, If she was the new testament Mary, she would not have been related to several other men in the tomb, leading skeptics to wonder how Cameron determined that Jesus was her companion.
6) Amos Kloner said the names found on the coffins had been found in tombs before, adding: 'It makes a great story for a TV film, but it's impossible. 'Jesus and his relatives were a Galilee family with no ties in Jerusalem. The Talpiot tomb belonged to a middle-class family from the first century.' Even if Jesus and Mary were buried in Jerusalem it would have been a certainty that Joseph would not have.
Gosh, I don't really know because I haven't read the book or seen the documentary but you obviously have because it would be premature and unobjective to form a conclusion without having done so.
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